Can I actually write in hindi ? That is what Google says - you can do it phonetically! Without actually using complicated mapping codes!
Now you can blog in hindi
Lets try it out ....
Now you can blog in hindi
Lets try it out ....
सलिल कण हूँ या पारावार हूँ मैं
स्वयम छाया स्वयम आधार हूँ मैं
बँधा हूँ स्वप्न हूँ, लघु वृत्त हूँ मैं
नहीं तो व्योम का विस्तार हूँ मैं
[from 'Parichay' by Ramdhari Singh Dinkar]
I will agree that it is quite a simplistic model, compared to using any one of the actual devnagri fonts. Although it gets the text correct with almost 70-80% accuracy, there are quite a few problems - it does not appear as actually written hindi should - and this makes it quite difficult to read. I found a few hindi blogs, which looked very interesting, as far as the content goes. But I found it so difficult to read, that I gave up.
Reading small snippets written in this font is a manageable task, but reading any non-trivial article is a non-trivial task. Spending a lot of effort in comprehending what the word actually was, breaks the flow. Few things that I found rather irksome while trying to read/write:
- You cannot write half-letters, and they are abundantly used - you could not probably write a single sentence without using one of those (e.g., vyom, swayam, vistaar). The font adds a 'halant' under the corresponding full-letter to make it sound the same, but the truth is that it is difficult to read. And this, perhaps, is my biggest grouse with the font.
- You cannot put the 'choti e ki maatraa' (as in vistaar) at the right place. I managed to fool the editor in case of 'salil' but I could not spell 'vistaar' correctly. (when the 'maatraa' has to applied to the first 'akshar'). Even then, to correct the 'maatraa' in 'salil' I had to use a multi-step editing process.
- Adding the correct 'Na' (as in kaN), or adding the correct 'bindu' ('bindu' or 'chandra-bindu') again require corrective editing and selecting.
I love to read and I would prefer to enjoy whatever I am reading rather than struggling to read the written text. That is why, I prefer those old-time fonts, which are difficult to write (because of the complex mapping schemes), but are pure joy to the reader. My favorite devanagri font in this respect is Shusha. Here is an example:
Aag Ki Bheekh (Ramdhari Singh Dinkar)
Isn't it beautiful? [I mean the font - there is no scope of doubt about the poem :-)] And it is not very difficult to learn (once upon a time I had attained a proficiency in it that I could write something in plain-text editor, and it would appear quite right when viewed with the correct fonts :-) ] The only problem that I find with it [apart from learning the character-set] is that this is a true-type font (TTF) ; and so you have to have a font server running on the site to allow readers to view it. So I cannot possibly use it on my blog. [If anyone knows otherwise - i.e. how to use TTFs on blogs etc, please please please let me know].
Reading small snippets written in this font is a manageable task, but reading any non-trivial article is a non-trivial task. Spending a lot of effort in comprehending what the word actually was, breaks the flow. Few things that I found rather irksome while trying to read/write:
- You cannot write half-letters, and they are abundantly used - you could not probably write a single sentence without using one of those (e.g., vyom, swayam, vistaar). The font adds a 'halant' under the corresponding full-letter to make it sound the same, but the truth is that it is difficult to read. And this, perhaps, is my biggest grouse with the font.
- You cannot put the 'choti e ki maatraa' (as in vistaar) at the right place. I managed to fool the editor in case of 'salil' but I could not spell 'vistaar' correctly. (when the 'maatraa' has to applied to the first 'akshar'). Even then, to correct the 'maatraa' in 'salil' I had to use a multi-step editing process.
- Adding the correct 'Na' (as in kaN), or adding the correct 'bindu' ('bindu' or 'chandra-bindu') again require corrective editing and selecting.
I love to read and I would prefer to enjoy whatever I am reading rather than struggling to read the written text. That is why, I prefer those old-time fonts, which are difficult to write (because of the complex mapping schemes), but are pure joy to the reader. My favorite devanagri font in this respect is Shusha. Here is an example:
Aag Ki Bheekh (Ramdhari Singh Dinkar)
Isn't it beautiful? [I mean the font - there is no scope of doubt about the poem :-)] And it is not very difficult to learn (once upon a time I had attained a proficiency in it that I could write something in plain-text editor, and it would appear quite right when viewed with the correct fonts :-) ] The only problem that I find with it [apart from learning the character-set] is that this is a true-type font (TTF) ; and so you have to have a font server running on the site to allow readers to view it. So I cannot possibly use it on my blog. [If anyone knows otherwise - i.e. how to use TTFs on blogs etc, please please please let me know].
6 comments:
If you want to use TTF font then you can go ahead and use it....but in order to read it...user should have the same TTF font.
Also, In case of blogger hindi writing:
I'm getting nice accuracy. Are you using Internet explorer...? Try using it. Amazingly, IE hows more respect towards hindi unlike mozilla.
Also when there are two possibility of same wor like ki...then clicking on the word shows its all possible hindi writings. Try using internet explorer.
I agree with you 100% here & with Vikash also.
Sigma, have you seen my Hindi group blog ? It is so difficult to type the correct way that after posting my first post over there, I had started thinking to back out !
Chandra bindu, bindu, halant, visarg etc. Its a pain.
Adding 'halant' to every letter is not Hindi, I will not even call it alternative.
Blogger says it does a good job but I am not sure.
BTW, I couldn't read a single word from "Aag ki Bheekh".
And if you come across an answer to this peculiar problem, pls pls let me know.
i would rather read some gud poetry in hindi than articles. i find the beauty of language coming out only in poetry, as far as articles go they're ok in any language as far as they make sense.
but writing in hindi is something i'd never dream of, let people struggle n write great hindi poems for us, we'll sit back n njoy :)
@Vikash: Thanks for your response.
Re accuracy: I think you are right. I have almost stopped using IE ever since I got on to firefox. Since firefox was displaying the hindi letters, I assumed this is how it is going to be (when the browser does not support the font at all, as in case of UNIX systems, all you see is a series of question marks or rectangles). There are many advantages of firefox that IE does not offer.
Re multiple possibilities for a word: Yes, I saw that feature, and I used it to get the things look reasonably good, but that was cumbersome - that was what I called multi-step editing process.
Re TTF fonts: I tried that some time back, but could not get it to work. I tried the things from my office, and I do not have a windows machine, only Solaris/Linux, and font installing is quite difficult on linux, and impossible on solaris - so that is a big part of the problem.
@Cuckoo: Are you too using firefox? Try IE, as Vikash advised. It did seem better, though I hardly ever use IE now. And the typing is indeed easier now with blogger supporting phonetic transliteration.
Re 'Aag ki bheekh': Are you seeing english letters which do not seem to make much sense? In that case, you will need to install Shusha fonts on your machine, or else try enabling dynamic fonts in your browser settings. (this wont work for unix/linux though). I'll mail you some details, and the fonts too, in case you dont find them.
@Maverick: Lol!
Check out the following site in that case:
www.anubuti-hindi.org
It has the largest collection of hindi poems (from well known poets as well as budding ones) that I have ever come across.
It has a sister site
www.abhivyakti-hindi.org, which carries a collection of stories.
Ohh please send me. I'll be grateful.
Yes, I use firefox. But even after using IE, what's the guarantee that the other readers can see it properly .. specially if they too use firefox ?
@Cuckoo - there is no guarantee - they cant! And if they happen to use firefox on UNIX (like I do at work), they will just see a lot of ?'s.
Alright! Sending you the stuff !!
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